The thing that we are looking for is which breakout viral successes from TikTok will turn into a multi-decade career like Taylor Swifts. While they estimated that only 15% of users experienced issues, Ticketmaster recognized "that's 15% too many, including passcode validation errors that caused fans to lose tickets they had carted." It literally is the same. There are no founder-friendly music labels out there. Ticketmaster, based in Beverly Hills, crashed shortly after 10 a.m. Tuesday after reporting historically unprecedented demand, with "millions of fans" showing up to buy tickets for the TaylorSwiftTix Presale event. We know were going to get a proportion of that. There were some smaller versions of this business that launched in the United States RIP Rdio, which was a Verge favorite. That to me is the thing that might change it in the TikTok context. SPOTIFY CROWNS TAYLOR SWIFT'S 'MIDNIGHTS' AS MOST-STREAMED ARTIST, MOST-STREAMED ALBUM Many fans sat in the Ticketmaster queue for hours waiting to get Swift tickets. Notified fans will receive their individual invite to submit their purchase request prior to Friday, December 23. "I never could have imagined how insane this whole process has been," one of Swift's fans, Amber Garis, told CBS Mornings. Thats actually maybe the most interesting piece of the TikTok puzzle, the Instagram Reels puzzle, and the YouTube Shorts puzzle. Maybe I dont know myself. "It obviously wasn't meant to be if we didn't get tickets but we're upset. Li Cohen is a social media producer and trending reporter for CBS News, focusing on social justice issues. Very much so. They get early options in Spotify and they get guaranteed payments per year early on, so theyre certain that many millions of dollars are going to come into their coffers, even if no one listens to the service. I dont know. In their suit, Swifties claim Ticketmaster tacitly encourages scalpers because the company gets paid fees every time tickets are resold. In 2014, she removed her entire back catalog of music from Spotify. Its part of the great scheme. You went on tour to promote your CD sales and you let radio stations in this country play the music, effectively for free, because that would lead to CD sales. The company said the cancelation was triggered by unprecedented demand, with more than 3.5 million people pre-registered to get an access code for purchasing tickets. (Gareth Cattermole/TAS18/Getty Images for TAS / Getty Images). They want to have a relationship with it. This was a religious war inside the tech and media industries. It was just three years later that streaming became the predominant revenue source for recordings. There was like a 10-year dark era where the industry was searching for the next thing. Thats amazing. Swift hastwo shows scheduled in Pittsburghfor June 16 and June 17. That is not what Taylor is doing. I mean, well find out. You still have the music on streaming, but she also has a tour that everybody is dying to see. We have to talk about music licensing. Pennsylvanians experiencing problems using the site should submit a complaint to my office: https://t.co/ZMqsSY0N2I. You were talking about how if you go viral on TikTok, then all of your fans will go listen to you on Spotify, then they might go buy a T-shirt, then they might end up buying a tour ticket. Yeah, major sigh. Dude, music licensing is so freaking complicated. But that share of the 100,000 songs a day that are being uploaded to Spotify from artists that are just getting going, I think a lot of those might actually never even come close to collecting $20. Its happening at Netflix. Now every single time that people stream these songs, she gets more of the share of that stream if they listen to Taylors version. There are so many robot nursery rhymes that go viral on TikTok and then they kind of go nowhere. Oftentimes you can buy greatest hits records, and its not actually the greatest hits, its re-recordings of the greatest hits. That is true. A general sale was then planned for Nov. 18 for fans who didn't receive a Verified Fan code or have a Capital One card. You can find out more and change our default settings with Cookies Settings. They just get put out for digital distribution. They have been pretty obvious and pretty explicit with their own investors that renting music from labels and then selling it for pennies is not a great business model. According to Ticketmaster's recent release, West Coast ticket sales scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. PST would be pushed back to 3 p.m. "I Waited 5+ Hours In The Ticketmaster Queue": Teen Is Accused Of Ruining Wedding After She Refused To Give Her Ticket To Taylor Swift's Concert To The Bride . Part of doing so would require getting permission from all of the labels to be able to play all songs, all the time, all the way through on demand, and whenever you want. Its beautifully made music, and I understand that they were all dating each other and you can just hear the pain, but I find it tedious and boring. I think Dua Lipa has been on tour for five years. You can get your one robot nursery rhyme to go viral on TikTok, but then you dont have any other moves. Maybe its because there are so many different people on the team using it or something, but no, its way off. It used to be that you sold the music, and all the other stuff was just promotion for the music as this thing you sold. Colleagues of ours at Vox had a great story about the TikTok to Spotify pipeline. You kept more of your revenues if you own your music, youre always better off but it was much more challenging as an independent. Onsale Dates and Times TaylorSwiftTix powered by Verified Fan Starts Tue, Nov 15 @ 10:00 am EST Ends Thu, Nov 17 @ 10:00 pm EST 55 days ago Aisle Seat Verified Fan Presale Starts Tue, Nov 15 @ 10:00 am EST "Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti is concerned about consumer complaints related to @Ticketmaster. I dont mean to say that theres zero money. Metallica: famously unhappy about the internet. It thinks the Switched on Pop TikTok account is an in-recovery smoker who is really into a bunch of very dated movie references. I was a collector. One, I think we both very much like Taylor Swifts music and we think shes a good musician. So I think something could happen there. ", The singer added that she was investigating why the situation unfolded the way it did and how it could be improved in the future. Right. Whats going to happen is your subscription is going to get pooled together with all of the other subscriptions, all of the other listeners, and all of their listening. I pay my $15 in and I spend 100 percent of my time listening to Guns N Roses; the other 99 subscribers pay their $15 in and spend 100 percent of their time listening to Taylor Swift. Your Spotify or Apple Music monthly fee is cheaper than Netflix, HBO Max, or whatever else, and you get more. People dont get that it is this weird pooling model. Its obvious. The music industry has certainly bet a lot of its time there. A fan who had been sent a verified code was told the Ticketmaster account wasn't linked to the Verified Fan sale. Mix. They were the dominant form of revenue. She is unusual in that the length of her career spans from the end of the CD era into the streaming era. This whole episode actually started because our team was talking about Taylor and her masters. You just have to front the money to put that on, and the army of semi trucks, grips, lighting techs, and all the people to do it. Additionally, less than 5% of tickets had been sold or posted on the secondary market. Shortly after announcing the Eras Tour, Swift added eight new dates to the highly anticipated event. Right. She was like, Im out of here. Its not just which artists you listened to, its how much you listened. And the U.S. Senate subcommittee that handles antitrust and consumer rights matters revealed it plans to hold a hearing to discuss concerns about Ticketmaster in the wake of the Eras errors. Taylor Swift fans who are registered as "verified" may have a second shot at tickets to her "Eras Tour" as Ticketmaster tries to make things right after its website crashed last month amid an onslaught of orders. It's really difficult for me to trust an outside entity with these relationships and loyalties, and excruciating for me to just watch mistakes happen with no recourse.". We were looking at the number of legacy artists that are selling off their catalogs for huge amounts of money to private equity companies, who all think theyre going to make massive returns on owning those catalogs of music. The Ticketmaster site was not prepared for the volume of Taylor Swift fans logging on for Tuesday's verified fan presale. Lets say Spotify has 100 subscribers, just to make it easy. They give you the movies that they have licensed, then things just disappear and you no longer have them. We map her big moves against the business of music over time to try to see if this really is the end of an era. I think we have laid out a case now for the change that has happened in the industry and how Taylor Swift and her record releases fit into it and her disputes. There is no shortage of stories of artists, musicians, and songwriters being short-shrifted throughout the entirety of the music industry. I mean Charlie Puth was a YouTuber. Swift said there was "a multitude of reasons" why people had "such a hard time trying to get tickets" and is trying to figure out how to "improve" the disastrous rollout moving forward. Microsoft has failed a few times. The most exciting thing in music is that people control more of their destiny. I have to say, theres something very dystopian in a business context about saying she wants to own the whole fraction of a penny. Taylor Swift Makes Surprise AMAs Appearance in Golden Jumpsuit and Shouts Out Blake Lively! When you visit this site, it may store or retrieve information on your browser, mostly in the form of cookies. Youre already worth a trillion dollars. Thats the baseline expectation I think all of us have of the metaverse. We have seen the massive devaluation of Netflix. Im pulling my back catalog. That was bold, because by 2014, the winds were in the sails of streaming. I am curious and skeptical whether or not that simpler model could work. Yeah, I mean Metallica was also unhappy at the time, but they didnt have the same amount of clout. Swift had been set to perform the "Lover Fest" tour in 2020, but it was canceled due to the coronavirus pandemic. They want to exit or they actually believe in this system and think that those revenues in the future are going to be very valuable. (The Associated Press / AP Newsroom), GET FOX BUSINESS ON THE GO BY CLICKING HERE. And its getting harder because all of these things are marketing funnels for other places. Im not being fair to Guns N Roses here, but lets just say its only you and three other people listening to them. I could probably name a bunch of 90s bands here, but I think were already at risk with the Taylor Swift fans. Okay. You have to make it on your own. If 20 years ago there was a, No streaming ever, were only ever going to sell CDs, to the, I dont want to hear a minute-long test version of a song, before you buy it on iTunes, there was a lot of holding back of their intellectual property. Its both, because she is putting out vinyl. You want to own the most amount of that master recording as you possibly can. </p> So moving outside of the $1 million NFT to the $20 NFT, maybe there is an opportunity for more collectible items in this sense. "We had 14 million people hit the site including bots, another story, which are not supposed to be there and despite all the challenges and the breakdowns, we did sell over 2 million tickets that day.". Taylors attempts to remake the music industry in the middle streaming period, as you might call it, all basically came to nothing, besides maybe a little more money or clout with the industry. You can serve them too, by the way. This doesnt make any sense.. I pay Spotify $15 a month. How did Spotify do at that moment? If so, I think this is where all the hedge funds buying up these music catalogs will have been overwhelmingly right, and they will shove it in our faces and say, Look, this stuff was worth a hundred times more than what you thought it was, because when youre in these virtual worlds, all you want to do is have some great background music going on. Unless that all just gets written by AIs, then maybe not. From a listener point of view, no wonder we were unhappy. "I love music, and I love live music even more. She didnt want to participate in that model. There are still some bonus songs where you have to go buy a thing at a retailer. They have been growing and they are listening in this way. So the person who took that bad record deal in the past, who does have the right to the songwriting, can re-record it and make more money off that record. People arent getting paid enough. Taylor Swift is known for planting Easter eggs and all the visuals match up in interesting ways, but in the world of K-pop, there are concepts and character arcs that last over many albums. You understand the value exchange there, even if the label is taking too much money. You cant put that genie back in the bottle. ", Taylor Swift's 10th studio album, "Midnights," was released on Oct. 21. Everyone was putting their albums on streaming, and people were having a great time exploring Spotify. Ticketmaster said it saw a "historic demand for tickets" during Taylor Swift's presale Tuesday. Apple Music is going to be fine because the iPhone is fine, right? The era of the unknown, unsigned person who has not been on social media being discovered by a major label is over, unless youre a famous person or nepo baby. "I'm not going to make excuses for anyone because we asked them, multiple times, if they could handle this kind of demand and we were assured they could. Well, I think that tour is actually finally over, but she was effectively permanently on tour, and it was generating tons of media for her on social. / CBS News, Taylor Swift is speaking out amid the controversy surrounding Ticketmaster's handling of her upcoming "Eras" tour. If you go back in this episode to when I asked Charlie to explain music licensing, there was a sigh. Ticketmaster crashed when demand was higher than anybody behind the sales seemingly prepared for, which has resulted in a lot of frustration that fans haven't been afraid to share in the days since. Listeners, on the other hand, were very pleased because they got everything all the time. Per the release, ticket prices ranged from $49 to $449, with VIP packages going for $199 up to $899. Taylor Swift tour tickets listed for as much as $22,000 as Ticketmaster crashes Millions of fans try to snap up presale tickets to singer's 2023 Eras tour in the US, with Ticketmaster's. It . Its like, Thats what I call music. So is everyone else. Just by Googling the name of the song, you can probably find a way to listen to it. Shes an amazing songwriter. He has transcended the platform. There was some weirdness with it, but the artists seemed happy with that arrangement. Taylor Swift's Eras Tour is on track to sell $591 . Shes doing things that are pro-artist and pro-songwriter, but they are a bit more on the margins. Your job is to go make a ton of bets and hope that one of those will fund all of the bets that fail, and that it does so extremely well and makes you a lot of money. If youre Dua Lipa, a lot of people will show up, but there were lots of artists this past summer who had to cancel their tours because they couldnt make the math work. What Im getting at is that the marketing funnel is really hard. All those folks who had secured really great deals and contracts, and who were making lots of money, were very upset by the piracy that started to take place around 2000. The master recording represents the largest majority of the revenue in streaming, as it did in the physical goods era as well. Go make your little startup, and when it starts selling, were going to take 90 percent. If its anything like venture capital, its that venture capital doesnt get terms as good as the music labels do. So yes, there are other breakout stars, and there are more and more of them every single day. No, because its the total amount of listening. At some point, she met the industry in the middle. I love having you on the show. Tickets, $40-$146, Seat Geek. When I say streaming is on the rocks, what Im getting at is that its still not as valuable to anyone as it should be. Most of them are pooling, some of them are doing pay per stream, but most are not. "UM. They got everything for free. It's truly amazing that 2.4 million people got tickets, but it really pisses me off that a lot of them felt like they had to go through several bear attacks to get them. I want to sell my TS Eras tickets here on stubhub. All rights reserved. It wasnt at its lowest, but it was dropping quickly. everything else your concert tickets, your merch, your NFTs, whatever it is. Politicians even got involved, with House Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeting that Ticketmaster has become a "monopoly" after its merger with Live Nation and that "they need to be reigned in.". Apples basically saying, Listen, in order to launch a streaming service, we need a ton of users. Theyre past their prime. By suppliers, you mean the musicians themselves? A group of 25 incensed Taylor Swift fans from across the country are suing Ticketmaster for fraud and intentional misrepresentation after last months Eras tour debacle, The Post can confirm. The music that we are able to listen to is music that can be monetized. Ticketmaster has canceled the public sale of Taylor Swift's "The Eras Tour" after high demand in the pre-sales. They had raised the prices when they went from vinyl and cassettes to CDs. Some 1.5 million fans were given a promo code for the verified fan presale, with the other 2 million placed on a waiting list. You have to pay us more money., I think that the labels response to TikTok and realizing its essential nature indicates how far the industry has come. 2023 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. The documents cited the "disaster" that occurred on Nov. 15 and Nov. 16, along with the "cancellation of general sale tickets scheduled for Nov. 18," alleging that Ticketmaster "has effectuated this anticompetitive scheme by forcing fans of musicians to exclusively use Ticketmaster for presale and sales prices, which are above what a competitive market price would be.". There was some amount of value there that you could see as an artist. The singer commented on the issue on her Instagram story on Friday, saying that Ticketmaster had assured her team "multiple times" they "could handle this kind of demand. Theyre not a music company anymore. Certainly, BTS fans are really upset that Ticketmaster is getting an antitrust look at this moment from Taylor Swift sales when they have been complaining about the same issues for many years. Taylor Swift is speaking out amid the controversy surrounding Ticketmaster's handling of her upcoming "Eras" tour. Is she following the standard playbook or is she evolving? She has four versions of this album that make a clock, and you have to buy all four copies on vinyl. There is a sense that, Okay, if I cant go on tour forever, I can still find something to sell digitally for $20 that might be worth money and the secondary sales might return royalties to me. Theres a lot of promise there. Ticketmaster later chalked the disaster up to "historically unprecedented demand," though Swift had some choice words for the company in her response, noting that she and her team had "asked them, multiple times, if they could handle this kind of demand and we were assured they could." Even before ticket sales kicked off, the demand for Swift's upcoming tour was high so much so that the Midnights singer added an . I think a lot of it has to do with, frankly, mismatches of supply and demand. The New York Times reported that the Justice Department was looking into whether Live Nation Entertainment, the parent company for Ticketmaster, has abused its power in the music industry. Certainly, the most successful are the K-pop groups. Given the success of Midnights, Swift's overall popularity and the fact that the singer-songwriter's previous tour had been canceled due to the pandemic, Eras was immediately projected to be the hottest ticket of the year. When you start getting into the number of people who are actually getting wealthy off of the streaming model, its a very, very small, elite group of people that get to have a successful music career. It might be undervalued financially, but in terms of value as humans, it is so essential to us. With music, the expectation is that it is effectively free. Dec. 12, 2022, 1:37 PM PST. I think that they were smart to chase what the people were doing. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. Make no mistake: Ticketmaster deserves the scorn that it is currently receiving from Taylor Swift's listenership, a population of such size and power that it probably merits a spot in the. Eras will be Swifts first tour since 2018, in honor of her 10th studio album, Midnights, which dropped in October. That helped persuade me eventually, but most of us were just trying to listen to everything that we wanted whenever we wanted. 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